MSNBC anchor Stephanie Ruhle grilled DNC chair Jaime Harrison over the Democrats’ technique heading into the 2022 midterm elections. 

Ruhle kicked off the interview on Tuesday by declaring subsequent week’s Virginia gubernatorial election “the first big test for Democrats.”

“But in Virginia and Democrats nationwide, why is it that it seems like Democrats continue to just be running against Trump? He’s not in office,” Ruhle mentioned. 

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Harrison pushed again, insisting the “first big test” was truly final month’s California recall leading to Democrat Gavin Newsome’s securing his seat within the governor’s mansion. 

He then appeared to defend the anti-Trump messaging from Democrats, saying former President Trump is “still the head” of the Republican Party and is “still looming” in American politics, later calling Virginia gubernatorial candidate Glenn Youngkin a “Trump acolyte.”  

“Trump is a looming threat, but he’s not in power and Democrats are,” Ruhle fired again. “And right now, Democrats have not gotten anything done on infrastructure, voting rights, gun reform and police reform. How do you get voters energized in Virginia for Democratic ideals, not just against Trump?”

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Harrison advised Ruhle these points she listed had been “in progress” and touted the passing of the American Rescue Plan. 

“This process ain’t a fast one. I know we all sort of make McDonald’s, Burger King mentality where you can go through fast- drive-through and get something done and get it done in a hurry, but that’s not how the legislative process works,” Harrison mentioned. “You got to do negotiations and move things forward. And we’re on the brink of doing just that. So I’m proud of what we’ve done so far. I know we’re going to continue to deliver for the American people moving forward.”

In this combination photo, Virginia gubernatorial candidates, Democrat Terry McAuliffe left, and Republican Glenn Youngkin appear during the Virginia FREE leadership luncheon, in McLean, Va., on Sept. 1, 2021.  (AP Photo/Cliff Owen)

In this mix picture, Virginia gubernatorial candidates, Democrat Terry McAuliffe left, and Republican Glenn Youngkin seem throughout the Virginia FREE management luncheon, in McLean, Va., on Sept. 1, 2021.  (AP Photo/Cliff Owen)
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The MSNBC host then pressed Harrison if he thinks Democratic lawmakers have “overpromised” within the spending payments since “a lot” of what was initially within the invoice won’t make it to President Biden’s desk. 

Harrison acknowledged “you don’t always get all you want all at one time,” notably with slim majorities within the House and Senate, however mentioned voters finally need to see “Congress working for them.”

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Ruhle wrapped up the interview by providing Harrison a warning.

“You know what else they care about? Inflation, prices going up and Democrats are gonna have to address that in the now and not just say it’s transitory,” Ruhle mentioned. 

FILE - Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Jaime Harrison speaks at a watch party during Election Day in Columbia, South Carolina, Nov. 3, 2020.  REUTERS/Randall Hill

FILE – Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Jaime Harrison speaks at a watch celebration throughout Election Day in Columbia, South Carolina, Nov. 3, 2020.  REUTERS/Randall Hill
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Earlier this month, Ruhle equally grilled Harrison over the Democratic in-fighting over the trillion-dollar spending payments. 

“If neither of these bills gets passed … how do you convince voters it is still worth sticking with Democrats in 2022?” Ruhle requested. 

“Well Stephanie, they’re going to get passed because they have to get passed,” Harrison advised Ruhle earlier than selling President Biden’s “FDR” model agenda and occurring to say Democrats “deliver” whereas Republicans “obstruct” as a part of the Democrat messaging heading into the midterms. 

Harrison provided assurances that the payments will get handed, however then rapidly shifted to the Republican Party, who he says is “just sitting on the sidelines trying to figure out ways to obstruct.”

“But sir, Republicans are not in power, you are,” Ruhle interjected. “And I’m not saying they’re right or he’s wrong, but isn’t the Democratic Party a party in where Joe Manchin and far-left progressives can exist in the same party? Because love or hate Republicans, they get behind — they get on the same page even when they hold the nose and hate their own president.”